Few stars from Hollywood’s golden era have stayed in the spotlight as long as Debbie Reynolds. Ever since her breakout performance opposite Gene Kelly in 1953’s Singin’ in the Rain, Reynolds has seemingly done it all; she was nominated for a Best Actress Academy Award for The Unsinkable Molly Brown, she starred alongside some of the silver screen’s biggest names, she’s been a memorable TV performer (recently, she turned up in a strong recurring role on Will and Grace and a voice actress (her credits include Rugrats and The Family Guy. In addition, she still tours behind her stage show, in which she sings standards, tells jokes, and does impressions. And she survived one of the biggest Hollywood scandals of the 1950s: losing husband Eddie Fisher to Elizabeth Taylor (she and Taylor have since patched up their differences).
Reynolds is currently promoting the Warner Archive collection, which will make available 150 movies on DVD and OnDemand from the company’s 85-year history, including Reynolds’ 1959 comedy The Mating Game. In an interview with Rotten Tomatoes, Reynolds talked about her passionate cinephilia, her favorite costars, her tight relationship with her daughter Carrie Fisher, and why she’ll never quit show business.
Debbie Reynolds: Oh, I really can’t answer that off the top of my head, my favorite movies. So… Dark Victory, For Whom the Bell Tolls, Gone With the Wind, The Pink Panther… Each one individually was wonderfully made, wonderfully directed, wonderfully written, wonderfully acted, and each one was entirely different, you know? And I love each one of those actors, Bette Davis, Ingrid Bergman — and I loved Gaslight; I loved Ingrid Bergman in that. I like romantic movies. I sort of go for the older movies. I liked the Pirates of the Caribbean because I thought Johnny Depp was adorable. I like Sleepless in Seattle, because I like a romantic movie. So there’s some.
DR: I’m just a movie fan. I used to go to the movies just to watch movies. I never dreamt of being in the movies. I was from a very average, I would say, a rather poor family, so my big treat was to work hard all week — I mowed lawns and babysat and washed dishes and washed cars — to go to the movies. I loved going to films, but as far as a movie buff, when I came into the movies at 16, life changed a little bit for me, from an onlooker to a person that lived within the industry. So now I would call myself a different sort of fan.
Reynolds in How the West Was Won.
DR: Yes, I started in 1970 at the MGM auction, and the Fox auction five years later, then the Columbia auction, and subsequently to private collectors and different auctions. I have over five thousand costumes and props and cars, and I have a twenty-five thousand square foot warehouse full of memorabilia.
DR: Well, I don’t even like to say that word, because I would hate to think about that. But my favorite is Marilyn Monroe’s subway dress, the white dress, the ruby red slippers, and the gingham dress of Judy Garland. Streisand’s dress from Hello, Dolly!; Garbo’s dress from Ninotchka; Katharine Hepburn’s dress from The Philadelphia Story; the Maltese Falcon…
DR: We’re building a museum in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, which is next door to Dollywood, which is Dolly Parton’s place. So we hope to open that in 2010. We were going to open it this year, but because of the economical problems, plans were pushed back.
DR: The Daughter of Rosie O’Grady was a sweet little comedy, nothing great [laughs], but it’s a sweet little film. Mating Game is funny, with Tony Randall. They’re spending a lot of money on these old films. Costs a lot of money to bring the silent films back. Kudos.
DR: Well, of course, I wasn’t wattching television when I was a youngster; there was the radio. And then there was, finally, VCRs, and now DVDs. And so people can see them at home, run them individually, whereas before you had to go to a motion picture theater. Now, I think it’s the opposite, I think people want to stay home and run movies with their whole family at home. It become a family hobby instead of going out to the theater, sad to say. But I think it’s very good because it reaches millions that would never see these movies.
Reynolds (center) with Donald O’Connor and Gene Kelly in Singin’ in the Rain.
DR: Well, anything worthwhile is hard, and dancing is very hard, and if you’ve ever studied dancing of any kind, you’d know that to be in precision, three people dancing together… Donald O’Connor and Gene Kelly were trained dancers; I, who was not a trained dancer, to train hard enough to keep up with them, was very, very difficult and demanding. So it was a real task for a real person of 17 years of age, who had never danced before, to learn to keep up with these brilliant dancers. I think I did a good job.
DR: Well, I like The Unsinkable Molly Brown for me as an actress, because I was older and I was a better actress than I was in Singin’ in the Rain. But as far as a better movie, it was Singin’ in the Rain. And then How the West Was Won, I think I was better in that as far as a better actress is concerned. You know, as you train and as you develop your talents, you do get better, hopefully, or you get out of the business.
Next: Reynolds talks about her favorite actors, and why Hollywood scandals are different these days.
DR: Well, I do an act, and I’ve been doing an act for 50 years. I do a variety show, which is a musical comedy show. I do impressions of Mae West and Bette Davis, Marlene Dietrich, I do Katherine Hepburn, I do Barbra Streisand, I do Zsa Zsa Gabor advising Paris Hilton, who is her niece, how not to slap a cop. I do comedy, and I do singing, Broadway show tunes and different songs that I like. Been doing it for many, many years.
DR: Well, they’re very different techniques. One is, if you a do a play, it’s a different technique. If it’s acting without music, that’s another technique. If you do a musical, it’s really thrilling and it’s a lot of work, but it’s very rewarding. I would say, for me, what I like best is what I do, which is, I call it vaudeville, I call it live, I call it in concert, I call it what Bette Midler does, and what Garland did for years, and Ethel Merman. Musical comedy… Ann Margaret does it, Mitzi Gaynor’s doing a new act now. So there’s just a few of us that still do it.
Reynolds with Singin’ in the Rain co-star Rita Moreno.
DR: Most every performer was so different. I had a lot of fun with Frank Sinatra, because he was such a hooligan, and so to himself, he was the king, and everything was his way, and I enjoyed watching that. And I loved working with Bette Davis. Bette Davis was great to work with and a wonderful teacher, and very kind to me. We became good friends. Agnes Moorehead was a great friend of mine; we worked together, and then we became dear friends until she passed away. We saw each other all the time. Lucille Ball was a good friend of mine; loved her, we saw each other all the time. Jimmy Stewart was a good friend. I miss them all. I knew Jack Benny; we were not as close, but still saw each other at least once a month or so. You know, just a lot of good friends.
DR: Well, I think Meryl Streep is a lovely actress, of course. I think there’s a lot of lovely women today that are… Gwyneth Paltrow is wonderful, Jennifer Aniston is good, Angelina Jolie… They’re all turning in really good performances. Meg Ryan is lovely. I love George Clooney, of the guys. Johnny Depp is one of my favorites.
DR: Oh, I would never stop watching film. The reason why I say I like the old ones is I like the subject matter better. I thought they had more variety to them, they had more romantic comedies and things that appealed to me more. I’m not a big shoot-em-up, bang-bang, you know? I like romantic films.
DR: I just think there’s more paparazzi, there’s more cable TV, there’s millions of networks now, there’s more paparazzi. People liked gossip then, and they like gossip now.
DR: Not a big change, just more coverage. I mean, I went through a lot of it in my time and it was difficult then, and it’s difficult for the people today. I feel sorry for the young people today. I think there’s too much paparazzi and not enough protection. I don’t think it’s the fans, I think it’s the fact that they get paid a lot of money for a picture of you doing something wrong. They don’t seem to be interested in anything good any more.I think people appreciate what you do. I think the fans do. I think the press does, too; it’s just the few crazies and paparazzi that give them a bad name. Real writers write good things. My daughter’s a writer, and she’s a quality writer.
Reynolds with her daughter Carrie Fisher.
DR: Do I read her books? Of course. [Laughs] She’s my daughter; I’m a fan of hers.
DR: Carrie’s? Oh no, not all of it’s true that she writes about me. She wants to have an imagination. That’s what a writer does; they make things up and that makes for good reading. I don’t mind anything she wants to say and make up; that’s up to her. Doesn’t bother me. I love her.
DR: Yes, I live right in front of my daughter. I have a little house right in front of her because I can stay in touch. It’s like a little commune, and it’s very nice, because you can be close. I can see my granddaughter. I live very close to my brother, too, and my son. We’re a very close family.
DR: I tour all year, 42 weeks a year, so it’s hard for me to remember every place I play. Myrtle Beach, Florida; Oklahoma; Denver. That’s my business, show business. So I’ll be like Irving Berlin: “There’s no business like show business.” And I’ll just stay in it till they stuff me like Trigger, when I drop dead.